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i think when you have -- paul ryan is not going to be able to do what mitt romney did. he was the chairman of the budget committee, for goodness sakes. it would be an affront to him to make up all of these numbers. >> let me switch to a different performance this week that got a lot of attention. i had the chance to sit down with a familiar face on this program, arnold schwarzenegger, former governor of california. recent revelations about his personal conduct have hurt his reputation, to say the very least. you have noticed he's been out this week with a new book called "total recall:my unbelievable true story" in which he details what he says are his successes and his failures. governor schwarzenegger, whack welcome back to "meet the press" meet. . >> thank you. it's good to be back again. >> let's start with politics. you're still a high profile voice in the republican party. what do you make of the race? can governor romney win this election? >> i think that the race is wide open. and i think that there's a lot of things that change all the time especially close to
i think when you have -- paul ryan is not going to be able to do what mitt romney did. he was the chairman of the budget committee, for goodness sakes. it would be an affront to him to make up all of these numbers. >> let me switch to a different performance this week that got a lot of attention. i had the chance to sit down with a familiar face on this program, arnold schwarzenegger, former governor of california. recent revelations about his personal conduct have hurt his reputation, to...
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the romney/ryan team has other plans in place of medicare which covers people who have retired, it would offer them vouchers. vouchers. imagine some 80-year-old to get on that bus somewhere and go try to find someone to sell them a health insurance policy. good luck, granny. that's not the whole of it. listen to romney when you're not supposed to be listen pentagon the best time to listen to him is when he doesn't think you're listening. saying they have simply failed to take personal responsibility for their lives. nice talk. listen to romney say out loud if you have a pre-existing medical condition and don't have insurance, well, that's your problem because that was your decision. that's how he talks. the same with the automobile industry. romney -- obama stuck his neck out to rescue it for all kinds of good reasons. his challenger said let it take bankruptcy. these are the drastic differences these debates should debate and they better do it. i'm joined by john heilemann, former rnc chair michael steele, my kind of republican. that will kill them. and politico's j. mar, jonathan mart
the romney/ryan team has other plans in place of medicare which covers people who have retired, it would offer them vouchers. vouchers. imagine some 80-year-old to get on that bus somewhere and go try to find someone to sell them a health insurance policy. good luck, granny. that's not the whole of it. listen to romney when you're not supposed to be listen pentagon the best time to listen to him is when he doesn't think you're listening. saying they have simply failed to take personal...
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. >> have you heard from mitt romney at all? >> yes. well, not mitt romney. paul ryan. >> paul ryan rang you? >> yes, he did. >> what did he say? >> he said thank you so much for your support and that i was brave and that they support me. and i thought that was just so generous and kind, you know. lovely, really. >> any of the obama campaign been up? >> no, they haven't. >> what does it say to you about the state of the political discourse and debate in america that one innocuous tweet from you, purely because you're an actress and the color of your skin, sparked this kind of mayhem? >> i think it tells me that our state -- the state of our country is that we are not united. we need to be united. and we all need to understand that we are all capable of achieving the american dream. and you know, but that has to be something that is self-realized. and also, to demonize someone for achieving the american dream is unfair. >> i'm told you have a 22-year-old son which i find very hard to believe. >> yes. >> but you do, apparently, who wasn't that happy either with
. >> have you heard from mitt romney at all? >> yes. well, not mitt romney. paul ryan. >> paul ryan rang you? >> yes, he did. >> what did he say? >> he said thank you so much for your support and that i was brave and that they support me. and i thought that was just so generous and kind, you know. lovely, really. >> any of the obama campaign been up? >> no, they haven't. >> what does it say to you about the state of the political discourse...
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the ryan/romney team would allow people vouchers. i imagine telling an 80-year-old to get on a bus and find someone to sell them a health inpolicy. that's not all of it. mr. romney, when you're not supposed to be listening to him, that's when you should listen to him. his condensation on seniors and social security, that they should take spoon buiresponsibi their lives. if you have a pre-existing health condition and don't have health insurance and now can't get it, well, sir, that was your decision. that's romney talking. obama stuck his neck out and rescued it. mr. romney said, let it take bankruptcy. this is the big drastic differences between these candidates and these debates should debate them. >> howard fineman, a political analyst and editorial director of the huffington post. he's here and rounding out our panel in kentucky is the pulitzer prize columnist eugene robinson. thank you for being with us. i want to start with chuck. your reporting, does it tell you that it's going to be a broad debate about philosophy and differe
the ryan/romney team would allow people vouchers. i imagine telling an 80-year-old to get on a bus and find someone to sell them a health inpolicy. that's not all of it. mr. romney, when you're not supposed to be listening to him, that's when you should listen to him. his condensation on seniors and social security, that they should take spoon buiresponsibi their lives. if you have a pre-existing health condition and don't have health insurance and now can't get it, well, sir, that was your...
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i simply hope this, i hope what paul ryan does is something fundamentally different than what mitt romney does and that can i hope he comes with just a modicum of truth and willing to defend their policies rather than to admit somehow they don't exi exist. >> finally will we see a different game from president obama in the next debate? >> i think now that barack obama has had the opportunity to meet both mitt romneys, i don't doubt that he'll make some adjustments. i know he's looking forward to the next debate. >> robert gibbs, thanks very much for your time this morning. >> george, thanks for having me. >> let's hear from the romney campaign. ed gillespie joining us this important. ed, thanks for getting up this morning. you heard robert right there, masterful, theatrical, fundamentally dishonest. i guess his basic point now about governor romney on his tax plan is either that he's not telling the truth about the scale of the tax plan or abandoning his economic theory. which one is it? >> well, the problem they have is that the debate's performance on wednesday evening was not a matter
i simply hope this, i hope what paul ryan does is something fundamentally different than what mitt romney does and that can i hope he comes with just a modicum of truth and willing to defend their policies rather than to admit somehow they don't exi exist. >> finally will we see a different game from president obama in the next debate? >> i think now that barack obama has had the opportunity to meet both mitt romneys, i don't doubt that he'll make some adjustments. i know he's...
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joe biden simply dismantled the romney/ryan world view. but also talk about how the right wingers are trying to make a big deal out of joe biden's smile. so what? i would have been outright laughing in paul ryan's face. joe biden was fed up and who could blame him? >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey. >> and why is that so? >> because not a single thing he said is accurate. >> this is a bunch of stuff. >> what do you mean a bunch of stuff? >> it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> thanks for the translation. okay. >> malarkey. a bunch of stuff. i love it. i love it. biden systematically took apart ryan's arguments for less government, let's accountability, let's community. it got so bad, paul ryan was driven to drink. literally. he went back to that cup of water over and over again. by our last count, at least 21 time. what's the matter there, mr. ryan? got a little cotton mouth? last night the romney/ryan effort was exposed as a shield for the extreme far right and vice president biden drove that point home again and ag
joe biden simply dismantled the romney/ryan world view. but also talk about how the right wingers are trying to make a big deal out of joe biden's smile. so what? i would have been outright laughing in paul ryan's face. joe biden was fed up and who could blame him? >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey. >> and why is that so? >> because not a single thing he said is accurate. >> this is a bunch of stuff. >> what do you mean a bunch of stuff? >>...
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>> i see from the romney and ryan point of view, something heather announced about the lt. colonel being subpoenaed to come to congress and testify, this is the achilles' heel of obama and biden. they are in charge. they screwed up. clearly. if i were ryan and his people, i open up this debate this week and go right after biden, mr. foreign policy expert, and say you guys were asleep at switch. you had the president going off to fundraisers in las vegas while the people were being dragged through the streets of benghazi. i would tick off biden. because that is when he is liable to lose it. >>gregg: the "washington post" is calling it benghazi-gate. the president already is after more than 40 months of unemployment above 8 percent now is touting the down tick to 7.8 percent. is that just a digit or is it meaningful? will people vote based on that? >> i have to say this, we have two reports, two surveys, one with 100,000 losses of new jobs, one had 800,000 new jobs, we cannot fine the 700,000. there was an important article, the number of people unemployed or underemployed is
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enthusiastic about romney, and they're enthusiastic about ryan. the winner of this race will have real legitimacy. this is not going to be a thing where they say, well, he really didn't represent our caution. now that -- if the president wins re-election, then you're going to see sort of policies along the clinton line when it comes to tax on top earners. you're going to see the health care bill stay in place. you'll see regulation of wall street stay in place and see these things happen. if by the same token if romney wins, he'll have the authority of an election behind him, so i think this gives the next president a real boost when he gets in there. >> i think one of the key things about the debate is it's change -- we will look back on it as an historic moment in this election. it upended things. this is what it upended. barack obama was supposed to be the sort of moderate centrist fellow who looked at mitt romney, this extreme, strange fellow. by the time that debate was over, mitt romney seemed a completely moderate centrist figure who showed
enthusiastic about romney, and they're enthusiastic about ryan. the winner of this race will have real legitimacy. this is not going to be a thing where they say, well, he really didn't represent our caution. now that -- if the president wins re-election, then you're going to see sort of policies along the clinton line when it comes to tax on top earners. you're going to see the health care bill stay in place. you'll see regulation of wall street stay in place and see these things happen. if by...
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ryan effectively counter the infamous 47% mitt romney quote? >> no. no. and you didn't play biden's response there. he said i always say what i mean and so does governor romney. that was a wonderful response to that comment. the 47% is not a made up thing. it is what governor romney believes. >> the 47% riff by biden was the best part of the debate for him. he said what are you talking about? my folks i grew up with in scranton, my neighbors my parents that was the best thing for biden in the whole thing. >>> did you observe that part buchanan is glorifying here? >> i agree biden was very effective with that argument and it set you want something for ryan to attempt to discount it by saying ryan is full of all these gaffes all the time but i didn't think it came across as effectively as they want >>> issue two. benghazi blame game. >> when i requested assets, instead of supporting those assets, i was criticized and somehow, it was my responsibility to come up with a plan on the ground. >> eric nordstrom, a state department official, was the agent in charg
ryan effectively counter the infamous 47% mitt romney quote? >> no. no. and you didn't play biden's response there. he said i always say what i mean and so does governor romney. that was a wonderful response to that comment. the 47% is not a made up thing. it is what governor romney believes. >> the 47% riff by biden was the best part of the debate for him. he said what are you talking about? my folks i grew up with in scranton, my neighbors my parents that was the best thing for...
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it is a clear contrast from the ann romney/ryan budget. -- from the ann romney/ryan budget. and all of these issues, it is a pretty clear choice. host: donna says from twitter, the democrats think biden won, the republicans think brian won, what a surprise. from "the washington post" -- at times, mr. joe biden struck us as condescending. >> that is the "washington post " leading editorial. the next call comes from ed in cleveland, ohio. caller: this is ted. i am a supporter of mitt romney. what i would like to say is what i watched last night several times joe biden had to interrupt him left and right, and that seems condescending. when joe biden said "finding what i say," i would like to heard paul ryan say does that mean you meant when you stood in front of people "i want to put you all in chains." that is it. thank you for c-span. host: another call from all file this morning. deborah. -- call from ohio this morning. deborah. caller: i am definitely an obama supporter. it comes down to planned parenthood. when i was 20 i found myself single and pregnant, and i went to pla
it is a clear contrast from the ann romney/ryan budget. -- from the ann romney/ryan budget. and all of these issues, it is a pretty clear choice. host: donna says from twitter, the democrats think biden won, the republicans think brian won, what a surprise. from "the washington post" -- at times, mr. joe biden struck us as condescending. >> that is the "washington post " leading editorial. the next call comes from ed in cleveland, ohio. caller: this is ted. i am a...
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ilp h i tidllave some trouble when he faces paul ryan on this. the romney campaign ha been making the case that president obama should have been more prepared for the attacks. the white house has not done a good job defending eresint is ileue i t it a tragedy, you can question people on what they knew or how much they knew, but it is the mide east, it is a bask case, move on. >>guest: sure, but, basically, is i now ahitese o onndallid president should have done more to prevent this and now president obama doesn't get to talk aout the new unemployment rate of 7.8 percent. instead he spends the next week defending the white house on that. >>neil: that is an ieresng pot. caatppbantit this, saying i goofed, i should not have said that, will joe biden be playing the role of saying, we got that wrong, our initial reaction was wrong but blahlecord inhedd etis >>guest: this shows a breakdown in communication between the state department and the white house. the state department is now saying that the video had nothing to do with violence. of course, the
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and we want to look forward to the next debate, which is biden and ryan. we also want to go inside the numbers with chuck todd for a look at how the campaign is feeling good. the romney campaign, after the first debate, looking at some of the enthusiasm. later, my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. much more to come with our special panel right after this. >>> "meet the press" is brought to you by the boeing company. we know why we're here. ♪ to connect our forces to what they need, when they need it. ♪ to help troops see danger, before it sees them. ♪ to answer the call of the brave and bring them safely home. [ female announcer ] around the globe, the people of boeing are working together, to support and protect all who serve. that's why we're here. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ how do you help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth annivers
and we want to look forward to the next debate, which is biden and ryan. we also want to go inside the numbers with chuck todd for a look at how the campaign is feeling good. the romney campaign, after the first debate, looking at some of the enthusiasm. later, my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. much more to come with our special panel right after this. >>> "meet the press" is brought to you by the boeing company. we know why we're here. ♪ to connect...
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he was the only guy out there predicting a sweeping romney win. well, today it is senator bill nelson of florida predicting that joe biden will make mincemeat out of paul ryan. expectations management is a dicey game >> yes, he was spot on -- setting the expectations so high and really came through. talking to partisans on both sides, the job for the vice president tonight is to slow the momentum of governor romney. and ryan at this point, to try to change the dynamic once again, this is going to be a proxy fight, but you know what? paul ryan has a record, as well, we heard it no -- in ron mott's speech and that is something that joe biden wants to exploit here. he will talk about the president and the 47% and talk about ryan as the idea of a lot of conservative thinking, the taxes, and spending. >> all right, david gregory, all part of the team for tonight's coverage of the vice presidential debate beginning tonight, 9 eastern, 6:00 on the west coast here on this nbc station. >>> we turn now to another major story out there today, the meningitis
he was the only guy out there predicting a sweeping romney win. well, today it is senator bill nelson of florida predicting that joe biden will make mincemeat out of paul ryan. expectations management is a dicey game >> yes, he was spot on -- setting the expectations so high and really came through. talking to partisans on both sides, the job for the vice president tonight is to slow the momentum of governor romney. and ryan at this point, to try to change the dynamic once again, this is...
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of romney-ryan and obama-biden. that's what we're debating tonight. >> why do people watch a vice presidential debate? do they watch it for a policy debate, or do they watch it to see can these guys become president of the united states? >> this stuff is always anecdotal. it's like sports. people have an opinion out of these debates. i think about it more as this month. these few weeks, the debate phase of the campaign. up until now, the entire campaign is about tv ads, surrogates arguing on televis n television, media pundits providing the analysis. and what was striking about last week's debate between governor romney and president obama, first time 90 minutes unfiltered, these two men going face to face, challenging one another. that's what this is about. it's just about suddenly we get to see the two leaders, in this case, the two vps. >> sort of philosophical. just part two of this philosophical debate. >> correct. it's the only moment in the campaign. last week 70 million viewers. this week, who knows how many
of romney-ryan and obama-biden. that's what we're debating tonight. >> why do people watch a vice presidential debate? do they watch it for a policy debate, or do they watch it to see can these guys become president of the united states? >> this stuff is always anecdotal. it's like sports. people have an opinion out of these debates. i think about it more as this month. these few weeks, the debate phase of the campaign. up until now, the entire campaign is about tv ads, surrogates...
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romney said today under duress that the romney/ryan position is the romney/ryan position, there's no difference between them. and he said you'll hear more about it at the vice presidential debate tomorrow. i bet you will. joining us now is steve kornacki, co-host of "the cycle." thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> the democrats have been aggressive in driving their campaigning on this issue, because they think that's a key issue for locking up the women's vote. with this walkback, this attempted and failed walkback that happened within the last 24 hours from the romney campaign, do you think that's going to have an impact there? >> yeah. there's some interesting data that came out in the last few days which i think is what was initially behind what mitt romney said, taking a more moderate position on abortion. first you had this poll that came out in ohio, showing obama ahead of romney by four. the gender gap in this thing was astounding. among men, romney had a 16-point lead in ohio. among women, 60-38, obama. that is like a 38-point gender gap. i have not seen someth
romney said today under duress that the romney/ryan position is the romney/ryan position, there's no difference between them. and he said you'll hear more about it at the vice presidential debate tomorrow. i bet you will. joining us now is steve kornacki, co-host of "the cycle." thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> the democrats have been aggressive in driving their campaigning on this issue, because they think that's a key issue for locking up the women's...
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mitt romney gaining on the president in poll after poll. >> and by the way, i think paul ryan will do great. >> both sides will join me here. and in the corner the democrats debby wasserman-schultz. >> it was a terrorist attack. let's be honest about it. flip-flopping again on abortion. frank bruni and my panelists go toe to toe. this is tpiers morgan tonight. >> good evening. 27 days to go until the election look at where we stand tonight. 48% for mitt romney and 47% for president obama. anything could happen on this race which tells you how high the stakes are. joe biden is in delaware tonight deep in debate preparations. paul ryan arriving in kentucky a little while ago. over the last four years we have not had the kind of strong leadership we needed in washington to take on our challenges. time and again he told us he would take on the things that he needs to. he hasn't and i will. >> in the midst of all of this talk of our debate. listen to what he told diane sawyer on abc. >> if you have a bad game you move on and move forward to the next one. welcome. >> how are you tonight? >>
mitt romney gaining on the president in poll after poll. >> and by the way, i think paul ryan will do great. >> both sides will join me here. and in the corner the democrats debby wasserman-schultz. >> it was a terrorist attack. let's be honest about it. flip-flopping again on abortion. frank bruni and my panelists go toe to toe. this is tpiers morgan tonight. >> good evening. 27 days to go until the election look at where we stand tonight. 48% for mitt romney and 47%...
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he's been studying paul ryan's policies, his speeches and his budget. meanwhile experts say the challenge for ryan will be to fend off efforts to link his own past budget proposals with romney's economic vision. >> i think he's probably going to come at me like a cannon ball. but the achilles heel he has is president obama's record. >> i just want to make sure that when i say these things that i don't have the congressman saying no, no, no, i don't have that position or that's not the governor's position. >> reporter: now, in terms of experience, biden has the upper hand. the 69-year-old veteran politician has several debates under his belt. ryan can't say the same. this is the 42-year-old's first 90-minute vp debate. it all gets under way at 6:00 our time tonight. it's being held at center college in danville, kentucky, and we will have it live so you can catch it right here on nbc bay area. coming up in my next live report we'll talk about who is expected to win tonight's debate. jon and laura. >> thanks, marla. >> looking forward to it. 5:20 right no
he's been studying paul ryan's policies, his speeches and his budget. meanwhile experts say the challenge for ryan will be to fend off efforts to link his own past budget proposals with romney's economic vision. >> i think he's probably going to come at me like a cannon ball. but the achilles heel he has is president obama's record. >> i just want to make sure that when i say these things that i don't have the congressman saying no, no, no, i don't have that position or that's not...
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last night mitt romney and paul ryan played to a large crowd in lancaster, ohio. there was a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of excitement in the air. and in large part because they believe the republicans believe they've won these first two debates. governor mitt romney had a pretty strong performance out in denver ten days ago. paul ryan had a pretty solid performance two nights ago down in kentucky. but that excitement and energy notwithstanding there's a lot of work left to be done for this ticket here in ohio. the president still shows a lead here in ohio, even though that lead has been chipped into over the last week or two, by about half in some of these polls. putting mitt romney within striking distance of the president. now, he may still, mitt romney may still have a challenge, a hurdle to clear with some undecided voters here. and that's surrounding this auto bailout. the president of course supported that bailout, pushed it through. the president and his campaign says that bailout saved hundreds of thousands of jobs not just in detroit but here in ohio and el
last night mitt romney and paul ryan played to a large crowd in lancaster, ohio. there was a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of excitement in the air. and in large part because they believe the republicans believe they've won these first two debates. governor mitt romney had a pretty strong performance out in denver ten days ago. paul ryan had a pretty solid performance two nights ago down in kentucky. but that excitement and energy notwithstanding there's a lot of work left to be done for this ticket...
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big jump, 4 out of 5 polls, mitt romney and paul ryan lead. have you big poll numbers in florida and virginia, showing people in just a second. abc and cbs admits the ticket is gaining ground, post debate. nbc, no, not much of an impact at ms-nbc. >> florida, ohio and virginia, battleground states. what we see on the screen, a tight, tight, dead heat in florida and in virginia. in ohio, you still see the president hanging on to a lead. i guess you could say that romney has the trend line, but ohio is still a problem. >> another factor in all three of these polls, over 90% said the debate made no difference. 6, 7 and 7% respectively who said the debates mattered to their vote. that is, not as helpful to romney as he might have hoped. >> the debate has not as much of an impact. >> sean: i was thinking that if joe biden loses and 25 day, i am thinking that nbc news -- it's a perfect place for an unhinged, over-the-top, extreme leftist. he would be perfect over there. >> chuck todd, the political director of nbc news labeled the rasmussen poll, qu
big jump, 4 out of 5 polls, mitt romney and paul ryan lead. have you big poll numbers in florida and virginia, showing people in just a second. abc and cbs admits the ticket is gaining ground, post debate. nbc, no, not much of an impact at ms-nbc. >> florida, ohio and virginia, battleground states. what we see on the screen, a tight, tight, dead heat in florida and in virginia. in ohio, you still see the president hanging on to a lead. i guess you could say that romney has the trend line,...
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asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who was confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan, was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which deductions you two are going to close. he can confront him on the $716 billion that he also likewise cuts from medicare. >> identical number. >> identical number. that's a wonderful thing to be teed up for vice president biden, and he can also just come at him on the issue of entitlements generally. paul ryan is somebody who apparently saved the survivor benefits that he got from social security, used tm to go to a good college, and now has been a long-time advocate of privatizing social security. >> i just wish joe biden would at some point ask the question, why do you right wingers think the way to get rich people to work harder is to give them more money and the way to get poor people to work hard
asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who was confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan, was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which deductions you two are going to close. he can confront him on the $716 billion that he also likewise cuts from medicare. >> identical number. >>...
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>> mitt romney put paul ryan on the ticket. that's not running away from the plan. >> but i mean -- he didn't embrace the ryan budget. it was too tough for him perhaps? >> correct me if i'm wrong, my understanding governor romney has been complimentary of the ryan budget plan and recognizes that we need to make reforms so that the big entitlement programs will be there for the next generation we need to tighten the belt on discreti discretionary spending. i disagree. >> mitt romney's tax proposals, because he has said that he can cut taxes without blowing up the deficit, without being deficit neutral, and at the same time keep defense spending. >> yeah. >> increase the defense budget. how does that work? >> governor romney said he can lower marginal tax rates and generate offsetting revenue so we don't increase the side of the deficit. >> how do you generate that? >> you reduce the number of write-offs and loopholes in some combinations. >> which would you reduce? he's not been specific. >> he's provided more specificity than t
>> mitt romney put paul ryan on the ticket. that's not running away from the plan. >> but i mean -- he didn't embrace the ryan budget. it was too tough for him perhaps? >> correct me if i'm wrong, my understanding governor romney has been complimentary of the ryan budget plan and recognizes that we need to make reforms so that the big entitlement programs will be there for the next generation we need to tighten the belt on discreti discretionary spending. i disagree. >>...
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couple of weeks from the romney-ryan campaign. a week ago, we had a presidential debate, mitt romney all of a sudden said there was no $5 trillion cu tax cut. i imagine that will be a topic. paul ryan once said he didn't have time to do the math on the tax cut. openfully tonight over 90 minutes he can do the math for us. >> bret: you even concedeed on the show with the deduction and credits while they haven't listed them specifically it wouldn't $5 trillion. >> here is what i said. he put out a number of tax cuts whether it's the estate tax, lowering everyone's rate by 20%, getting rid of the amt, payroll tax, number of tax cut he put on the table. the sum of the tax cuts is $5 trillion. >> bret: he said in the debate? you capped it, set a cap you could reach it. tax policy center which you cite, campaign cites says that you could reach the number that he is talking about -- >> no, it didn't say that. if you could reach the number -- you could add up the deduction and loopholes to $5 trillion if you raise taxes on the middle class
couple of weeks from the romney-ryan campaign. a week ago, we had a presidential debate, mitt romney all of a sudden said there was no $5 trillion cu tax cut. i imagine that will be a topic. paul ryan once said he didn't have time to do the math on the tax cut. openfully tonight over 90 minutes he can do the math for us. >> bret: you even concedeed on the show with the deduction and credits while they haven't listed them specifically it wouldn't $5 trillion. >> here is what i said....
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or are you running and paul ryan as part of the romney/ryan ticket? how much should we expect to hear tonight about the way paul ryan comported himself in the house of representatives? >> well, you know, rachel, mitt romney and paul ryan campaigned all throughout the state of wisconsin during the republican primaries, where mitt romney completely wrapped his arms around paul ryan's policies. paul ryan's budget. i think that is going to be a piece of the discussion tonight and i think that is, you know, part of what the american people need to decide on, whether or not they want a budget that protects tax cuts for those at the top but is cutting education, and veterans and clean energy, innovation, infrastructure, turning medicare into a voucher program. those are the types of choices that the meamerican people have before them and that will be part of the discussion tonight. >> you said earlier today, stephanie, that paul ryan and mitt romney are politicizing the attack in benghazi that killed our ambassador there. the republican national committee re
or are you running and paul ryan as part of the romney/ryan ticket? how much should we expect to hear tonight about the way paul ryan comported himself in the house of representatives? >> well, you know, rachel, mitt romney and paul ryan campaigned all throughout the state of wisconsin during the republican primaries, where mitt romney completely wrapped his arms around paul ryan's policies. paul ryan's budget. i think that is going to be a piece of the discussion tonight and i think that...
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ryan may have been a smart pick for romney despite his policy positions, not because of they'll. which is to say, he's been pretty good on the stump, in terms of ginning up enthusiasm. the policy stuff may have been his achille's heel and the campaign stuff a bonus. >> ginning up enthusiasm among republicans, probably -- i don't see where the enthusiasm is for him among independents in the body politic overall. i mean the policy positions he's taken, you know, god love him, at least there's someone in washington who is going to put really hard, specific policy prescriptions on the table, the problem, though, is that they're incredibly unpopular. we've gone from the road map for america's future foote of prosperity to the house budget that the budget that the house passed that they're now all running away from because they now know that the american people don't like the policy prescriptions are there. ryan is young, in great shape, very smart. but when people talk about the specifics and what his vision is, they're not going to like it and that's why tonight is fascinating becaus
ryan may have been a smart pick for romney despite his policy positions, not because of they'll. which is to say, he's been pretty good on the stump, in terms of ginning up enthusiasm. the policy stuff may have been his achille's heel and the campaign stuff a bonus. >> ginning up enthusiasm among republicans, probably -- i don't see where the enthusiasm is for him among independents in the body politic overall. i mean the policy positions he's taken, you know, god love him, at least...